Wednesday, April 30, 2008

The prototype has been constructed and tested!

Inital construction was from a 2L pepsi bottle as a container, a 12v lead-acid battery, 10g outdoor wire, medical airline tubing and steel grating.

Upon construction the plates were initially spaced at opposing sides of the bottle. When energized, there was some effect, but the result was minimal. No ignitable Hydrogen was produced, however it was visibly being produced within the positive anode. The anodes were bent with the curvature of the bottle.

I then flipped the anodes around so that it made an X shape in the bottle, the production improved however only in the areas where the anodes were closest to another. I am led to believe the proximity is involved.

I straightened the anodes out making them flat against themselves with 3-4mm of clearance. Sufficient hydrogen was produced to cause small ignitions of hydrogen. Small pop noises if you will.

I elected to make this design more efficient by adding in baking soda, trying to adapt the water into an electrolyte. This had a marginal effect, however raw table salt caused a huge difference. I would say 3 fold the amount of production. The pop was heard well through the house.

I decided to attempt the same experiment with hot water. And I found that the electrodes do indeed have to be in relatively close proximity to one another. However I found out as well that hot water has the same effect as adding an electrolyte.

So this 2 anode system was capable of producing ignitable hydrogen gas. And it performed best with the plates in close proximity, and better with hot water being used.

A side effect of the experiment that was present in all cases was a greenish red scum on the waters surface, and the water was tainted a yellow hue. I can believe this may have been crap stuck in the wiring, or the electrode was dirty. I will have to get some stainless steel or aluminum for a comparison test.

All and all, today was very productive. I learned that hydrogen production through electrolysis is possible. My design worked but it needs much more improve ments before we continue.

the mad scientist is going to bed. Tommorrow is another day, and perhaps a 5 anode cell.


Tuesday, April 29, 2008

HHO Gas. Research complete, Phase 2.

Well for those who might not know Ive been doing some research into Hydrogen production.

No im not making a bomb, im simply looking at converting a vehicle to a hydrogen-gas hybrid with the eventual hope of doing a full hydrogen conversion.

Hydrogen is extremely flammable gas. Anyone who has seen the Hindenburg blimp combust knows this readily and is likely why people are reluctant to install it or push the envelope for using it in engines.

But im not here to commit to conspiracy theory. I am conducting an experiment.

We've seen the hydrogen boosters on tv. And Mythbusters has proven that they will work, however when myth busters performed the test, they attempted to run the car soley on hydrogen which resulted in it working for a short period of time until a backfire occurred.

The mythbusters simply held the device over the carburetors mouth. Which, as with any fuel source. If unregulated, and the fuel allowed to pass back to the source, it will backfire.

However, the Mythbusters proved an interesting point. Hydrogen will indeed run a vehicle. This means the device only requires refinement.

(By the way Adam and Jamie, should you need a Canadian to come down and work for you, Ill glady do it. You think Adams good at hurting himself, you aint seen nothing yet!)

Anyhow. Back on topic. Ive been reviewing modern vehicle control systems and been pouring over videos and patents from Stan Myers and the like on how to do it.

In theory it will work. The vehicle will identify through its oxygen sensor that it is running far too rich and reduce the pulse of the fuel injector to compensate until it falls as close to stoichiometric ratios as it can.

In English. Hydrogen is a fuel. If you chuck fuel into a cylinder that the car can control, and then put hydrogen in, the van will of course attempt to reach that magic number by thinning out the
gasoline. Hence you save gas.

So where do you get hydrogen? Well any local gas shop. (Like a welding store) will stock hydrogen, however the huge amount stored in a tank is extremely dangerous. So you would have to produce it locally. Specifically, on the vehicle itself. So again where do you get hydrogen?

Probably the most common source is a chemical that could be dihydogen oxide. H2O.

We commonly call this water. If you pour raw water into an engine it will suffer from hydrolock. The engine tries to compress water. Water is of course thicker then air and mechanical failure happens. The trick is, how do you separate the hydrogen and the oxygen?

The weird part about passing electrical current through water is that is splits hydrogen and oxygen. 12v at 8-9 amps passed through electrical plates submerged in water with no electrical connection will cause heat and cause water to breakdown between the two plates. Hydrogen being heavier then water and air goes to the top where it can be collected, and pumped into the intake system of a vehicle to be used as a fuel source.

If it was this simple why hasn't everyone done this. It takes electronics and mechanical knowledge to get it to work.

You could put two nails in a bucket of water, hook it into a battery and get hydrogen. This is no secret at all. However the production rate of hydrogen would be so minimal, that it wouldnt be significant at all. You need more surface area to make more gas.

So you could use quality material, such as a perforated stainless steel to increase the size. However if you increase the size you will also generate more heat and require more amperage to run the system.

With more heat, the water will begin to condense, or make steam if you will, so you will require a method of separating the water from the gas. Not difficult, however this is another glitch that will have to be sorted out of course.

This still may not increase the hydrogen production enough to satisfy the requirement. As you know if you turn the system on and off, there is a boost in the production as you shock the water, it forces more production. So by adding a device that will provide the high current voltage at a higher frequency then what a battery can produce natively you will enhance your results drastically.

Now if you produce more hydrogen then you know what do do with, you need a method of regulating how much fuel goes into the engine. Even if it is just enough to keep the car at idle. For this you will need a regulator that you can adjust for how much you need to use. This must also work in tandem with the frequency to be able to adjust for the demand.

There is also safety. Were talking about a device that produces high voltage, hydrogen gas. You need emergency venting of the water tank, one way check valves to prevent a backfire from reaching that tank, and an electrical system capable of shutting things down in a hurry.

So Ive elected that I shall build such a device and install it onto a small engine to begin with and then move up. To see for myself if it does indeed work. If it does, bonus. If its a flop. Well, no big deal.

Im not trying to save the earth. Just a few bucks.

Results and updates will be thrown on the blog for your own deductions as I come up with them.


Wednesday, April 9, 2008


Ahh.. Spring.. Birds chirping. Pavement dries out. Warmth finally settles in.

And with spring comes bike season. Unfortunately I'm bike less right now. So Ill just have to pout in the corner and watch. I really miss it. In all honesty. I miss riding.

I figured I would post this up to remind us all about bikers as we all head to the streets this spring.

Found this on a car forum I'm a member of...

-Ride free. HyperFox


I saw you, hug your purse closer to you in the grocery store line. But you didn't see me put an extra $10.00 in the collection plate last Sunday.

I saw you pull your child closer when we passed each other on the sidewalk. But you didn't see me playing Santa at the local Mall.

I saw you change your mind about going into the restaurant when you saw my bike parked out front. But you didn't see me attending a meeting to raise more money for the hurricane relief.

I saw you roll up your window and shake your head when I rode by. But you didn't see me riding behind you when you flicked your cigarette butt out the car window.

I saw you frown at me when I smiled at your children. But you didn't see me, when I took time off from work to run toys to the homeless.

I saw you stare at my long hair. But you didn't see me and my friends cut ten inches off for Locks of Love.

I saw you roll your eyes at our leather jackets and gloves. But you didn't see me and my brothers donate our old ones to those that had none.

I saw you look in fright at my tattoos. But you didn't see me cry as my children where born or have their name written over and in my heart.

I saw you change lanes while rushing off to go somewhere. But you didn't see me going home to be with my family.

I saw you, complain about how loud and noisy our bikes can be. But you didn't see me when you were changing the CD and drifted into my lane.

I saw you yelling at your kids in the car. But you didn't see me pat my child's hands knowing she was safe behind me.

I saw you reading the newspaper or map as you drove down the road. But you didn't see me squeeze my wife's leg when she told me to take the next turn.

I saw you race down the road in the rain. But you didn't see me get soaked to the skin so my son could have the car to go on his date.

I saw you run the yellow light just to save a few minutes of time. But you didn't see me trying to turn right.

I saw you cut me off because you needed to be in the lane I was in. But you didn't see me leave the road.

I saw you, waiting impatiently for my friends to pass. But you didn't see me. I wasn't there.

I saw you go home to your family. But you didn't see me. Because I died that day you cut me off.

I was just a biker. A person with friends and a family. But you didn't see me.

Repost this around in hopes that people will understand the biker community.

If you don't repost this, it sucks to be you. I hope you never lose someone that rides.